One of my early pro-white reads was Guy White, truthfully he’s fallen off the radar for a variety of reasons, here’s a pretty good example…
In Defense of Blacks
One major disagreement I have with White Separatists is the idea of kicking out blacks who are descendants of slaves. These people and their ancestors didn’t ask to come here. They weren’t beating down the door for a chance to be a dehumanized slave. *snip*
By all means, stop all black immigration, that’s not my point. But most blacks have been here longer than most whites, and they didn’t come here by choice. Having kidnapped and abused them in the first place, we owe them a moral duty to allow them to stay here.
All our ancestors understood that. None of the major political leaders or philosophers suggesting expelling blacks against their will.
In just these coupla paragraphs Guy shows himself unwilling and unable to make the hard choices that the defense of his people require. Let’s break it down…
These people and their ancestors didn’t ask to come here.
But now they are here and killing White people at a pretty healthy clip. So what do we do about that? Hold hands and sing kumbaya as our people are murdered and our women raped by Black men? At some point the media will no longer be able to hide just how bad and pervasive black crime is Guy and I think there will be a violent backlash, what then Guy? More kumbaya singing?
All our ancestors understood that. None of the major political leaders or philosophers suggesting expelling blacks against their will.
Um, Guy? Ever heard of Liberia? No? Then how about American Colonization Society? With respect they most certainly did contemplate the idea of repatriating Blacks back to Africa and force was not off the table.
Auster talks about “the usual suspects” on the subject of Islam, Guy White has just become a Usual Suspect on the subject of race. He’s willing to tell us all about the problems of Blacks in America, he just isn’t willing to tell us any realistic solutions to deal with the problem.
Let me be perfectly clear, the position of this blog is that we need to return America to as White a nation as possible, we would have no problem with America becoming a 100% White nation once again.
As to ‘owing’ Blacks because of slavery? Ahem, that is some seriously Liberal hogwash, America has more than paid the price for whatever racial sins she has committed, we are now in the time of no excuses. Black folks need to take ownership of their behavior, they can no longer blame slavery or Jim Crow or Racism for their problems.
Final thought: I always had a sense that Guy was ultimately unserious, this just reinforces that big time.
Good points that are difficult for most of us to say very often.
That’s the object of this blog OA so thanks! After having to hold back on the importance of race for the last five years it is a true relief to be able to write openly and honestly on this subject.
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This is a very unpopular position to hold in the racial right, but I do consider blacks authentically American in light of their many contributions to American culture (no rap jokes please, we know that’s garbage) and identity. At the same time, I’m under no illusions whatsoever about the serious deficiencies of the black race in civilization and strongly oppose race mixing. The solution may be casteism.
Hey AW, I wonder if you could give me a couple of examples of African Americans contributions to American culture. Feel free to go on at length, honestly, I can think of a couple but not much.
The most obvious are several indigenous styles of music, namely ragtime, jazz, and blues. Rock and roll, while based in part on rockabilly and largely developed by white artists, was fundamentally a development from blues and first played by black artists.
Minor contributions have been made in other fields, such as poetry by Langston Hughes.
Music is the obvious one, I’ll grant you that gladly. As to writing? Eh, there’s so little to speak of Its hard to get too excited over it. I’m not for a moment saying that Blacks have contributed nothing to our culture, or that they’re subhuman but, does it balance the scale in terms of the crime and savagery they bring to our shores? I’m not as sanguine as you are.
I’m not sure that we need to place black contribution and depredations on a set of scales to see whether or not they should go back to Africa. The first black cargo arrived nearly 400 years ago and blacks have been an integral part of American history and culture, for better or worse.
True, but us that a good thing? You posit it is, yet I’m not seeing much in the way of “because’s.” It seems to me that your position is that because they were slaves they have a ‘get out of honest scrutiny free card,’ while I disagree strenuously with that position.
Perhaps weighing their behavior on a scale is exactly what we need to do, why not? There is no Black run nation (worldwide) or city in the States where Blacks haven’t turned it into the Third World, if I’m mistaken please let me know where you think is being currently well run by Blacks.
So as I always ask: how can we have people in this country who can vote, that are not capable of maintaining the very civilization they are living in? How does that work exactly?
I haven’t forgotten your earlier allusion to some sort of class structure but why would that be better or worse than simply removing the problem once and for all? Or do you think its better to just live with festering problems and let them grow rather than actually dealing with them decisively?
It is not my contention that blacks deserve a free pass merely because they were slaves. I do not see anything immoral about slavery in the first place, and in the second place most of the founding stock white population were basically slaves when they came here as well.
It is of course correct that blacks are inferior in the arts of civilization and cannot, by themselves, maintain anything even resembling it. However, as a caste within a civilization blacks are able to function and contribute. The nuclear family, Christianity, and of course the English language were imposed on blacks by us, with some success.
As for your voting comment, I couldn’t agree more, and I am very much anti-democratic, particularly when dealing with an outgroup which is at once incompetent and selfish. It does not work, as they will simply vote en masse against whitey, ironically undermining the basis of the most advanced civilization blacks anywhere live in.
As for why a class structure would be better, it wouldn’t be. But it’s who were are, not just now but for a very long time. Roots and identity are important to me and should be important to this civilization. I see the negro problem as America’s permanent cross to bear. Acted upon intelligently and honestly, solutions exist to the benefit of our people as well as black people.
[...] One of the points I’ve been making on this blog since the beginning is that the various ethnicities in America are already de facto segregated and to call for actual segregation would do no more than make official what is already the case, and in this context I’ve said very clearly that I think we need to seriously consider a Liberia 2.0. [...]
Regarding the blog “Guy White”, there is something quite suspicious about it. His comments are dominated by a stupid black woman and a biracial (self-described) smartass, whom he coddles shamelessly. This is weird.
On the subject of Liberia, I don’t think it’s practical, but it’s a great thought.
Agreed Soph, I was a daily reader for a while but the meandering/odd topics and who he chose to deal with in comments bugged me as well.
[...] second is the “moral” argument, best typified by Guy White here. In short it goes ’since Blacks were brought here against their will they cannot be held to [...]
[...] Me? I say Liberia 2.0 [...]
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[...] As I have previously called for, we need to buy up an African nation or two, build first world infrastructure and begin repatriating American Blacks back to Africa. Liberia was a good idea a hundred and fifty years ago and Liberia 2.0 remains a good idea today. [...]
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